Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? It makes no sense, unless....

In Sarah Palin's interview with People magazine, it is reported that she had amniocentesis, and that she knew that her son Trig would be born with Down's Syndrome.

Why did she have this test performed?

She is opposed to abortions in ALL circumstances.  If her position became the law, there would be no point in having amniocentesis done for anyone, as it would be illegal for the women to terminate the pregnancy.  Indeed, the test itself carries with it the small risk of triggering a miscarriage or spontaneous abortion.

By having this test, she put the fetus at risk for no reason at all.   She took a chance at ending an otherwise "normal" pregnancy in order to get information which she is completely opposed to acting on.

It makes no sense, and her physician wouldn't have recommended a procedure that was ultimately pointless, and was a small risk to the fetus.

It makes no sense, unless...  When she agreed to have the test done, she was willing to consider the option of terminating the pregnancy. An option she wants to prevent other women from having the opportunity to consider were they in a similar circumstance.

We of course don't know her thinking at the time, but it would be interesting to hear her explain why she had this procedure done.  There is certainly the suggestion of profound hypocrisy going on here.



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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 7)

there are conditions that an infant cannot survive.  there are also conditions that can be corrected in uttero, and that's probably the reason.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 11:36:19 PM EST

Anna is exactly right. (2.00 / 6)

Plus, even if you'll be having the baby regardless, if you know about potential issues beforehand, you have more time to plan for how to handle them then if you just wait until birth to find out.  And issues with the baby are, unfortunately, far more likely when the mother is Sarah Palin's age.  

This diary is really stupid.  Please delete.


Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?
by Elsinora on Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 11:40:45 PM EST
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Agreed. (2.00 / 1)


by Dumbo on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 01:29:57 AM EST
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Her age is a risk factor (2.00 / 1)

Older pregnant women are advised to have such a test, as they are at increased risk.


by SoCalVet on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 09:23:53 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 0)

There, you said something that I rec'd.  Do you have TU status yet?

Nice sig, btw.


by Jordache on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:03:16 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 2)

yes, I got it back a few days ago. there are still a few that give me hate speech, but now some others are chewing them out and down-rating them.  It still feels terrible to be hate speeched, but it feels a lot better since I'm not quite so alone with it.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:05:24 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 1)

There was a major invasion of trolls a month ago, and they're still around..  I don't mean people you disagree with, I mean people who don't mean what they say and try to stir up arguments and rec each other.  It's got everyone really suspicious and tightly wound.


by Jordache on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:08:19 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 1)

these are regular posters who like to stalk me.  Some miss the primary season, I guess.  Or they still hate Hillary and I'm a convenient stand in.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 01:03:56 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (none / 0)

To be honest, you did say some very divisive things during the primary.  Yes, so did others, but you recced and defended some pretty nasty things, so I can understand some people still have issues.


by shalca on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 04:50:22 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 1)

if blogging positive posts for one candidate is divisive, then I'm guilty.  But my comments on Barack were never about anything he could not help, and if he's listened he would not be in this situation with some of Hillary's supporters, and more than 30 percent of his supporters would not harbor negative opinions about Hillary. I used to quote him, you can disagree without being disagreeable. So, to be fair, you're mistaken.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 10:44:27 AM EST
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Amniocentesis (2.00 / 2)

Really stupid.  If you are going to have an infant with a problem, better that you know so the doctors and hospital can be prepared to handle it as best they can.  Also, there are some conditions that can be detected in utero that necessitate a cesarean section to protect the baby.


by mady on Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 11:52:55 PM EST

Off-Topic Question (none / 0)

Slightly OT, but if the media is ever allowed anywhere near Sarah Palin someone ought to ask her whether she believes women who have abortions should be arrested and tried for 1st degree murder.

I would really like to hear her answer.


by Will Graham on Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 11:54:58 PM EST

Re: At What Price An Obama Win? (2.00 / 2)

This diary is sinister and utterly compromising to Obama and Democrats.


by superetendar on Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 11:56:30 PM EST

Re: At What Price An Obama Win? (2.00 / 3)

the good thing is that it gave some of us a chance to educate. Would have been okay if it had just been a question, without posing a weird answer.  


what a relief
by anna shane on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:06:46 AM EST
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Re: At What Price An Obama Win? (none / 0)

I have to kind of agree.

My doctor recommended an amnio with all my pregnancies--and I refused every time.  My logic was, if there was something wrong I didn't want to know because I wouldn't have aborted regardless the outcome.  Some women do want to know, and I think its perfectly within their rights to.

Maybe the problem is, a lot of people don't really understand the purpose of an amnio (thus this diary isn't sinister, rather the diarist may be uninformed).  


John McCain smells like mothballs.
by asherrem on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:17:57 AM EST
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Leave it. (2.00 / 4)

This issue is a loser, even IF there weren't a totally benign explanation to it.  Besides, part of being pro-choice means that you give all people the benefit of the doubt on stuff like that and leave them alone; I know the issue is hypocrisy and not abortion per se, but that level into Sarah Palin's pregnancy is repugnant.

No offense.


by Jordache on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:11:41 AM EST

Re: Leave it. (none / 0)

"that level of prying into..." rather.


by Jordache on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:12:16 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin ha (2.00 / 1)

I think the more relevant question has to do with the odd circumstances surrounding the birth of Trig.  That story just does not make any sense, and it has nothing to do with the baby, but everything to do with her judgment and decision-making.  What kind of person would get on a 10 hour flight to Alaska after having just gone into labor????  


by ProfessorReo on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:17:22 AM EST

Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? It ma (none / 0)

I think all women over a certain age who are pregnant are strongly recommended to have this test.


by colebiancardi on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:29:15 AM EST

Who cares? (2.00 / 1)

Her family planning decisions are decidedly not my business.


by JJE on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:39:38 AM EST

Re: Who cares? (none / 0)

Although sadly she would like ours to be hers.


by interestedbystander on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 02:32:44 AM EST
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Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 3)

There are certain medical proceedures that can be done on a baby for it's health prior to birth, and I am not talking about abortion.  Amniocentesis can identify potential medical problems even at birth, and they can attempt to prevent them.  If you were having a child with a disability, are you telling me you would not want to know prior to birth, so that you could better prepare for them and their care?

I oppose Palin on issues, but all this fascination with her pregnancy and ridiculous speculation is a disgrace.  Maybe you ought to educate yourself on proceedures, and pregnancies before you post. Hasn't the left gotten enough bad press with all this fascination with her private life.  Do you have to continue to prolong the backlash?


by Scotch on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:47:55 AM EST

Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (2.00 / 1)

I started to write a long reply about our own family -- and the discussions we had about whether or not have an amnio to confirm a likely diagnosis of Down syndrome, even though we knew we would never abort our son (who is now a gorgeous four-year-old boy blessed with an extra chromosone.)

Then I thought, why bother.  Because that's not the point.  The point is, no one has any business even inquiring about this.


by markjay on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 12:59:21 AM EST

My only comment (none / 0)

is to commend all the commenters for your reaction. This is the kind of patient erudition I wish we could see on all the threads, even those we deem "trollish".


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 03:03:40 AM EST

Every pregnant woman should have one. (none / 0)

There are a ton of things to fault Sarah Palin on.  This is not one of them.


by shalca on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 04:51:25 AM EST

can't agree with you there (none / 0)

There is a small risk of miscarriage associated with that procedure (about 1 in 200). For most women, that risk is much higher than the chance that the test will uncover a problem with the fetus.

There is a blood test that can identify possible problems (AFP blood screen). It's possible to get false negatives on that test, but a woman carrying a low-risk pregnancy who passes that blood test is probably better off skipping the amnio.

At that point, your chance of miscarrying a healthy fetus because of the amnio is much greater than the chance that the test would uncover a genetic problem such as Down syndrome.


See if Saxby Chambliss is helping you.
by desmoinesdem on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 08:42:41 AM EST
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Re: can't agree with you there (none / 0)

Point taken.  However, I still advocate all pregnant women to see their doctors regularly and use the safest way possible to monitor the health of their fetus.  It just makes sense to do so.


by shalca on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 01:04:17 PM EST
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Delete this diary (none / 0)

Doing an amnio for a woman who is over 40 is NOT simply to determine whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. Amnio (and other prenatal screenings) can provide vital information to have the appropriate resources on hand at a baby's birth.

Just to give one example, many Downs babies also have congenital heart defects. Information gained from an amnio (and a follow up cardiac ultrasound) could ensure that a pediatric cardiologist is on hand at delivery.

Amnio for a woman over 40 is considered smart medicine. Period.


"Life is too short, time is too precious, and the stakes are too high to dwell on what might have been." Hillary Rodham Clinton - June 7, 2008
by twinmom on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 08:48:13 AM EST

NUTS (none / 0)

You are nuts to think the only reason a woman has an amino is to help in a decision about abortion. Very strange opinion to have.


by del on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 04:12:26 PM EST

Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? It ma (none / 0)

The poster is correct. Amnio makes no sense if abortion is not an option.


by hypopg on Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 09:27:40 PM EST

Re: Why did Sarah Palin have Amniocentesis? (none / 0)

MOST pro-life women choose not to do amniocentesis for the reasons many posters have stated:  abortion is not an option, and amniocentesis does in itself carry a risk.  (About 1 pregnancy in 200 will miscarry as a direct result of amnio.)  But some pro life women do choose to, in order to be aware of some medical problems (most typically Down's and spina bifida) so they can plan their births accordingly.

But that's what's so absurd here.  That's why there's something SO fishy in this story.  We are expected to believe that Sarah Palin had a test whose ONLY purpose for her would have been to diagnose conditions prenatally so that she could make "better" choices for her delivery... and then... what?  She ignored them.  She chose as her doctor, supposedly, a family practice doctor who lived 800 miles from her primary residence.  She chose to give birth at a facility with no NICU even though about a third of Down's babies have heart problems, and a small percentage need surgery right after birth.  She chose to get on an airplane leaking amniotic fluid and having (at least some) contractions and travel over 12 hours at 36 weeks of pregnancy! And on top of all of this, we're supposed to believe that a doctor went along with it!

And yet anyone who points out how really implausible all of this is somehow "going after families" or not respecting her privacy or something.  

People, this whole thing stinks.  As a medical professional, I can say that NOTHING that this woman did regarding her pregnancy, labor, or delivery is plausible or defensible.  


Audrey PalinDeception.com
by annieb393 on Thu Sep 18, 2008 at 06:27:30 PM EST


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